Heeft er iemand hier ervaring mee?
Zou veel minder lawaai maken, je moet bovendien geen slicks opsteken.
Minoura fietstrainer met aandrijving op velg
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H-rock
- Mountainbiker
- Berichten: 47
- Lid geworden op: zo 18 aug 2002 02:00
- Rijdt met: Merida HFS 5500 ; Commençal VIP N+UTS 2 ; Scott Endorphin Team Issue
Heb net vandaag eentje gekocht. Wel nog niet uitgeprobeerd (morgen pas). De bouwkwaliteit lijkt me wel erg goed: stevig enz. En slijtage op de velg zou best wel es kunnen meevallen: de weerstandwieltjes zijn overtrokken met een dik zacht rubber. Zal morgenavond es iets posten over 'mijn eerste ervaring' 
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H-rock
- Mountainbiker
- Berichten: 47
- Lid geworden op: zo 18 aug 2002 02:00
- Rijdt met: Merida HFS 5500 ; Commençal VIP N+UTS 2 ; Scott Endorphin Team Issue
De mijne is dien blauwe. Ben amateur hé, geen prof waarvoor die grijze gemaakt werd.
Enfin, dat spel geïnstalleerd, bikeoutfitje aangetrokken en H op zijn splinternieuwe rollen. Komt der daar, bij de eerste krachtige pedaalslagen
, een gekrijs uit dat het niet meer mooi is. K zat bij mezelf te denken: ze hebben me hier deftig gevogeld die japanners met hun reclame: degelijk en stiller dan die soort die op de band afremt. Ik terug naar de fietswinkel, dat uitgelegd en direct (jawel, direct bestaat nog in mtb-land) een nieuw weerstandselement gekregen. Vlug erop gemonteerd en eerste keer mee gereden. En dat viel goed mee. Afgezien van de saaiheid, werkte alles goed.
- Er zitten 8 weerstanden op vanaf het stuur bediend. Eerste voelde k niet zo het verschil tussen die 8 maar na een tijdje voel je toch, laat me zeggen, 'een merkelijk verschil' tussen de versnellingen.
- Of ie stiller is dan een 'bandmodel' kan k me moeilijk uitspreken, heb zoiets nog nooit bezig gehoord.
- Een vrees die ongegrond werd bevonden: het opwarmen van de velg. Dit gebeurd, maar in kleine mate.
- Nog iets dat k belangrijk acht: je moet geen evenwichtskunstenaar zijn om op je fiets te kruipen en erop te blijven. Je bike staat erg goed vast en de stabiliteit is dan ook goed.
- Persoonlijk denk k wel dat dit model voldoende is voor mtb. De rolweerstand is lichter, maar naar mijn mening voldoet hij ruimschoots, daar je virtuele snelheden van 50 km kan halen en met een tandcombinatie van 42-11 is dat een flinke trapcadans, me dunkt. (K denk niet dat k die virtuele snelheid eens gehaald heb).
Afgezien van die eerste kapotte rolweerstand (als je m gaat kopen: doos opmaken in de winkel om te zien of het vliegwiel mooi parallel staat met de magneetkop, en bijgevolg niet tegen de magneet wrijft), ben k best wel tevreden. Nu nog de duurtest .
Enfin, dat spel geïnstalleerd, bikeoutfitje aangetrokken en H op zijn splinternieuwe rollen. Komt der daar, bij de eerste krachtige pedaalslagen
, een gekrijs uit dat het niet meer mooi is. K zat bij mezelf te denken: ze hebben me hier deftig gevogeld die japanners met hun reclame: degelijk en stiller dan die soort die op de band afremt. Ik terug naar de fietswinkel, dat uitgelegd en direct (jawel, direct bestaat nog in mtb-land) een nieuw weerstandselement gekregen. Vlug erop gemonteerd en eerste keer mee gereden. En dat viel goed mee. Afgezien van de saaiheid, werkte alles goed. - Er zitten 8 weerstanden op vanaf het stuur bediend. Eerste voelde k niet zo het verschil tussen die 8 maar na een tijdje voel je toch, laat me zeggen, 'een merkelijk verschil' tussen de versnellingen.
- Of ie stiller is dan een 'bandmodel' kan k me moeilijk uitspreken, heb zoiets nog nooit bezig gehoord.
- Een vrees die ongegrond werd bevonden: het opwarmen van de velg. Dit gebeurd, maar in kleine mate.
- Nog iets dat k belangrijk acht: je moet geen evenwichtskunstenaar zijn om op je fiets te kruipen en erop te blijven. Je bike staat erg goed vast en de stabiliteit is dan ook goed.
- Persoonlijk denk k wel dat dit model voldoende is voor mtb. De rolweerstand is lichter, maar naar mijn mening voldoet hij ruimschoots, daar je virtuele snelheden van 50 km kan halen en met een tandcombinatie van 42-11 is dat een flinke trapcadans, me dunkt. (K denk niet dat k die virtuele snelheid eens gehaald heb).
Afgezien van die eerste kapotte rolweerstand (als je m gaat kopen: doos opmaken in de winkel om te zien of het vliegwiel mooi parallel staat met de magneetkop, en bijgevolg niet tegen de magneet wrijft), ben k best wel tevreden. Nu nog de duurtest
.ervaringen van gebruikers in VS voor Hyper Rim:
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Submitted by Craig a Racer from Terre Haute
Date Reviewed: 12/26/02 1:21:36 PM
FavoriteTrail: Linton Trails
Duration Product Used: 1 Year
Price Paid: $170
Purchased At: Fat Bikes !!
Strengths: Durable / Fire and Forget
Weaknesses: None
Bike Setup: Cannondale SuperV
Bottom Line: Buy this one, you do not have to change tire to use because it has rim rollers for resistance. Road or mtn this one works.
Value Rating: Overall Rating:
Submitted by Sandeep a Weekend Warrior from Chicago, IL, USA
Date Reviewed: 7/22/02 11:56:34 PM
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Price Paid: $155
Purchased At: cycletechinc.com
Strengths: Sturdy. Not too loud. More than enough resistance. Self-servicable parts. Resistance via rim, not tire. Can be used as an adequate wheel truing stand with some imagination!
Weaknesses: Not as quiet as I'd prefer. Rim resistance rollers get dimpled if left on rim after use (not permanent). The resistance module gets pretty hot.
Bike Setup: Fuji folding bike w/ 26" wheels; Cannondale Road Warrior 800.
Bottom Line: As far as I'm aware, this is the only trainer (in addition to the lower model Inter-Rim Ergo) with which one can use knobby ATB tires (without ripping them apart). Since this model was only $10 more than the lesser model, it was a no brainer decision. I concur with everything stated by the previous poster (Chris). Forego the model with the remote; you will have enough range of resistance with a multi-speed bike while saving $20. The only problems that I have with this trainer are fairly minor:
1) If you leave the rubber rim rollers on the wheel after a workout, they will flatten out where they meet the rim. Thus, your next ride will be bumpy for a few minutes until the rollers soften up and regain their round shape. A fairly annoying problem if you're not in the habit of releasing the rollers after the workout (I'm usually thinking about some water and the shower, not rollers). Nothing to discourage you from the purchase...just realize that it's not broken.
2) The resistance unit (not the rollers, but the unit with the belt, gears, etc.) gets pretty hot. Hot enough to hurt your flesh. It just makes me wonder at the longevity of this product, since many components in the unit are rubber and plastic. Thankfully, they all seem to be servicable by the user (if you can get the appropriate replacement parts from Minoura). No problems yet.
3) The max "speed" stated in the manual is either 25 or 30 MPH. I'm not sure what the limit is for other trainers, but I've gotten carried away and maxed out at times. but to be fair, it wasn't at the highest level of resistance of the unit.
Overall, it's a very good product (and really the only one if you intend to use knobby tires).
Value Rating: Overall Rating:
Submitted by Chris a Cross Country Rider from Vacaville CA
Date Reviewed: 3/21/02 3:14:38 PM
FavoriteTrail: Rockville
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid: $169
Purchased At: Nashbar
Strengths: This trainer is awesome. Very quiet. Easy to set up. Doesn't tear up the tire.
Weaknesses: Remote doesn't really change the resistance
Similar Products Tried: none, first trainer
Bike Setup: 2001 Cannondale Jekyll
Bottom Line: For those who have tried the Minoura Egro trainers and complain about not enough resistance....try the Hyper-Rim. It's a step up from the Egro, and will burn your legs up. Resistance is changed a lot more by the gears on your bike than the remote on the trainer.
This thing is awesome. No slipping at all. In fact I even rode with a bent rim and the springs on the resistance wheels allowed the trainer to stay on the rim.
Very quiet. Great for apts.
Value Rating: Overall Rating:
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Submitted by Craig a Racer from Terre Haute
Date Reviewed: 12/26/02 1:21:36 PM
FavoriteTrail: Linton Trails
Duration Product Used: 1 Year
Price Paid: $170
Purchased At: Fat Bikes !!
Strengths: Durable / Fire and Forget
Weaknesses: None
Bike Setup: Cannondale SuperV
Bottom Line: Buy this one, you do not have to change tire to use because it has rim rollers for resistance. Road or mtn this one works.
Value Rating: Overall Rating:
Submitted by Sandeep a Weekend Warrior from Chicago, IL, USA
Date Reviewed: 7/22/02 11:56:34 PM
Duration Product Used: 3 months
Price Paid: $155
Purchased At: cycletechinc.com
Strengths: Sturdy. Not too loud. More than enough resistance. Self-servicable parts. Resistance via rim, not tire. Can be used as an adequate wheel truing stand with some imagination!
Weaknesses: Not as quiet as I'd prefer. Rim resistance rollers get dimpled if left on rim after use (not permanent). The resistance module gets pretty hot.
Bike Setup: Fuji folding bike w/ 26" wheels; Cannondale Road Warrior 800.
Bottom Line: As far as I'm aware, this is the only trainer (in addition to the lower model Inter-Rim Ergo) with which one can use knobby ATB tires (without ripping them apart). Since this model was only $10 more than the lesser model, it was a no brainer decision. I concur with everything stated by the previous poster (Chris). Forego the model with the remote; you will have enough range of resistance with a multi-speed bike while saving $20. The only problems that I have with this trainer are fairly minor:
1) If you leave the rubber rim rollers on the wheel after a workout, they will flatten out where they meet the rim. Thus, your next ride will be bumpy for a few minutes until the rollers soften up and regain their round shape. A fairly annoying problem if you're not in the habit of releasing the rollers after the workout (I'm usually thinking about some water and the shower, not rollers). Nothing to discourage you from the purchase...just realize that it's not broken.
2) The resistance unit (not the rollers, but the unit with the belt, gears, etc.) gets pretty hot. Hot enough to hurt your flesh. It just makes me wonder at the longevity of this product, since many components in the unit are rubber and plastic. Thankfully, they all seem to be servicable by the user (if you can get the appropriate replacement parts from Minoura). No problems yet.
3) The max "speed" stated in the manual is either 25 or 30 MPH. I'm not sure what the limit is for other trainers, but I've gotten carried away and maxed out at times. but to be fair, it wasn't at the highest level of resistance of the unit.
Overall, it's a very good product (and really the only one if you intend to use knobby tires).
Value Rating: Overall Rating:
Submitted by Chris a Cross Country Rider from Vacaville CA
Date Reviewed: 3/21/02 3:14:38 PM
FavoriteTrail: Rockville
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid: $169
Purchased At: Nashbar
Strengths: This trainer is awesome. Very quiet. Easy to set up. Doesn't tear up the tire.
Weaknesses: Remote doesn't really change the resistance
Similar Products Tried: none, first trainer
Bike Setup: 2001 Cannondale Jekyll
Bottom Line: For those who have tried the Minoura Egro trainers and complain about not enough resistance....try the Hyper-Rim. It's a step up from the Egro, and will burn your legs up. Resistance is changed a lot more by the gears on your bike than the remote on the trainer.
This thing is awesome. No slipping at all. In fact I even rode with a bent rim and the springs on the resistance wheels allowed the trainer to stay on the rim.
Very quiet. Great for apts.
Value Rating: Overall Rating:
Laatst gewijzigd door Heinz op do 23 jan 2003 15:56, 1 keer totaal gewijzigd.
Ervaringen VS voor RDA-rim
Submitted by Eli a Cross Country Rider from Asheville, NC, USA
Date Reviewed: 10/28/02 7:38:03 PM
Duration Product Used: Tested or demo'ed only
Price Paid: $180
Purchased At: Performance Bike
Strengths: Great idea.
Weaknesses: Completely defective, non-existant QA by Minoura. Support is a joke.
Similar Products Tried: None yet.
Bottom Line: I purchased this with a great deal of excitement, as I was going to use it to help recover from a knee injury. I was let down completely because:
1) One of the foldable legs was cut too short (or one too long). It was 5/8" shorter than the other leg, making it impossible for the unit to balance flat.
2) The resistance module was utterly defective. Right out of the box the wheel did not turn. Upon inspecting and dismantling it I found the whole shaft was bent, causing part of it to rub and chip the magnet inside.
3) After calling Minoura, speaking with with warranty manager Jeff Zell, was told that they are proud of their 0.5% failure rate and that they fully support the product and it was a fluke... to return it to Performance for replacement since quote "they should foot the bill for the damage".
I'll be trying someone else's trainer, even if I have to buy new tires for it. As other users have mentioned, it feels flimsy and it is. You may be better off trying something more sturdy and "professional".
Value Rating: Overall Rating:
Submitted by Chris Grandjean a Weekend Warrior from Reston, Virginia
Date Reviewed: 4/25/02 11:47:05 AM
FavoriteTrail: Old Rag
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Price Paid: $160
Purchased At: Performance
Strengths: Easy to set up! Fairly lightweight! Can hear TV over the noise. Remote resistance is great! Rim drive is nice since I used both road and mtn bike on it.
Weaknesses: The wheels that ride on the rims deteriorated VERY quickly from the inside out and ended up shredding where the rubber connects to the plastic around the bearings... I'm hoping it's covered in the warranty! I rode 30 min 4 days a week over 6 mos. before it died on me. I noticed a lot of wheel slip as well, but now I'm thinking it was the beginning of the drive wheel shredding.
Similar Products Tried: none
Bike Setup: GT aluminum road
Specialized Stumpjumper Pro
Bottom Line: It was a good product.. easy to use, adjustible, quiet, but it just didn't live up to my expectations.. for $160 I would expect something called a "trainer" to hold up to "training!"
Value Rating: Overall Rating:
Submitted by Tom a Weekend Warrior from Pittsburgh, PA
Date Reviewed: 2/15/02 3:55:46 AM
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid: $175
Purchased At: Performance Bike
Strengths: This thing is so quiet. Don't have to use a slick tire on a mountain bike. Made very well. Remote resistance control.
Weaknesses: None so far..
Similar Products Tried: Minoura Ergo mag trainer - noisy and I have to use a slick tire.
Bike Setup: Cannondale Carbon fiber Raven 2001
Bottom Line: My girlfriend got this for her new Raven. I'm totally amazed how quiet this thing is. My old trainer listed above is loud. They've really improved there product line.
This thing is easy to set up and there doesn't appear to be any slippage of the wheels on the rims. Came with a remote that is made so you can put it on and take it off quickly with no tools.
Value Rating: Overall Rating:
Submitted by Eli a Cross Country Rider from Asheville, NC, USA
Date Reviewed: 10/28/02 7:38:03 PM
Duration Product Used: Tested or demo'ed only
Price Paid: $180
Purchased At: Performance Bike
Strengths: Great idea.
Weaknesses: Completely defective, non-existant QA by Minoura. Support is a joke.
Similar Products Tried: None yet.
Bottom Line: I purchased this with a great deal of excitement, as I was going to use it to help recover from a knee injury. I was let down completely because:
1) One of the foldable legs was cut too short (or one too long). It was 5/8" shorter than the other leg, making it impossible for the unit to balance flat.
2) The resistance module was utterly defective. Right out of the box the wheel did not turn. Upon inspecting and dismantling it I found the whole shaft was bent, causing part of it to rub and chip the magnet inside.
3) After calling Minoura, speaking with with warranty manager Jeff Zell, was told that they are proud of their 0.5% failure rate and that they fully support the product and it was a fluke... to return it to Performance for replacement since quote "they should foot the bill for the damage".
I'll be trying someone else's trainer, even if I have to buy new tires for it. As other users have mentioned, it feels flimsy and it is. You may be better off trying something more sturdy and "professional".
Value Rating: Overall Rating:
Submitted by Chris Grandjean a Weekend Warrior from Reston, Virginia
Date Reviewed: 4/25/02 11:47:05 AM
FavoriteTrail: Old Rag
Duration Product Used: 6 months
Price Paid: $160
Purchased At: Performance
Strengths: Easy to set up! Fairly lightweight! Can hear TV over the noise. Remote resistance is great! Rim drive is nice since I used both road and mtn bike on it.
Weaknesses: The wheels that ride on the rims deteriorated VERY quickly from the inside out and ended up shredding where the rubber connects to the plastic around the bearings... I'm hoping it's covered in the warranty! I rode 30 min 4 days a week over 6 mos. before it died on me. I noticed a lot of wheel slip as well, but now I'm thinking it was the beginning of the drive wheel shredding.
Similar Products Tried: none
Bike Setup: GT aluminum road
Specialized Stumpjumper Pro
Bottom Line: It was a good product.. easy to use, adjustible, quiet, but it just didn't live up to my expectations.. for $160 I would expect something called a "trainer" to hold up to "training!"
Value Rating: Overall Rating:
Submitted by Tom a Weekend Warrior from Pittsburgh, PA
Date Reviewed: 2/15/02 3:55:46 AM
Duration Product Used: Less than 1 month
Price Paid: $175
Purchased At: Performance Bike
Strengths: This thing is so quiet. Don't have to use a slick tire on a mountain bike. Made very well. Remote resistance control.
Weaknesses: None so far..
Similar Products Tried: Minoura Ergo mag trainer - noisy and I have to use a slick tire.
Bike Setup: Cannondale Carbon fiber Raven 2001
Bottom Line: My girlfriend got this for her new Raven. I'm totally amazed how quiet this thing is. My old trainer listed above is loud. They've really improved there product line.
This thing is easy to set up and there doesn't appear to be any slippage of the wheels on the rims. Came with a remote that is made so you can put it on and take it off quickly with no tools.
Value Rating: Overall Rating:
